Showing posts with label bear market. Show all posts
Showing posts with label bear market. Show all posts

Friday, October 10, 2008

How low can we go?

All of my positions except for STMP and AMD have sold. I had a sell on the last of my SNE, but it was input incorrectly so it will sell first thing on Monday. I'm not just getting out for no reason at all, I just want to take a breath and look for a bottom. A bottom to me will be when things stabilize and loans start to be issued by Wall street. If Wall street doesn't trust itself to be given a loan between them selves I don't think I should trust them with my investment.

That said, after doing some reading on the 1929 crash a few days ago I again went back and looked at the DJIA chart from max time. This time I held up a pen to see the line that it made if it moved up in a uniform fashion.

Yes, that's my hand holding my pen, taken with my phone. The pen is pointing at 6k. I had previously estimated 7500 so 6k now doesn't look much farther down. Here is a clearer image of the same chart showing the pen replaced by a green line. You should be able to click on it to see it full size.

Not very scientific, but I do think it is reasonable. What do you think? Based on the 29 crash we'll see a few more up days and some more rich people buying stocks to try and stem the red flow, but overall we are going to see a downward trend until the banks start to lend money again. If we start seeing a bunch of bankruptcies in big companies I think it will mean the banks will be even less likely to lend money (since they lost it) and we'll see the next tier of companies failing. Not much different than the housing market drying up. People could no longer refinance their houses and ended up defaulting. Companies will not be able to refinance their payroll and end up defaulting or cutting back. This is not a good place we have come to and I hope I'm wrong!

Tuesday, October 7, 2008

Bleeding badly

My account has been bleeding badly as I'm sure yours has to. A few days ago I put a bunch of 3% lowere stops on many of my positions and they have been selling off. I also bought some more gold and silver. My account is in transition from one brokerage to another and I have a more limited view of my account. It has a lot of cash in in now and I'm planning on keeping more "real" assets for the near term.

I wrote an e-mail yesterday to my dad about my thoughts on the current market problems.

So, if this is as bad as everyone is saying which is that it is the worst market conditions since the great depression I decided to do a comparison to then and now and maybe try and figure out where this thing will bottom out? (if it really is that bad?)

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=^DJI#symbol=^DJI;range=my

October 1, 1929 343.45
April 1, 1932 42.82

A drop of -88%

July 1, 2007 13,895.62
January 1, 2010 1667.47

Let's hope it's not as bad as everyone is making it out to be!

My guess was that it would drop to 7500. 1667 seems inconceivable, but I'm betting it seemed pretty inconceivable back in 1929 as well.

The one thing that really got me thinking about this was seeing Bank Of America stumble yesterday. That set off some alarm bells for me.

I found this to be a good article after I wrote this e-mail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_Crash_of_1929